Decades in Review
Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 11:45AM Posted by Mitch 
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As we enter a new decade, and in a spirit of reflection, I find myself comparing the things I love about Disneyland and Walt Disney World to the things I love much less. Although I have a fascination with ‘vintage’ I do love the occasional new attraction that knocks my socks off. Notice I use the word occasional. Sadly I find myself less and less impressed as time goes by.
Let’s look at this 55-year progression (or digression). The above timeline is a visual representation of my opinions. It’s very simple. Blue = I like. Red = Sub-par.
Shocking? To most of the readers of this blog, this may not be. To most theme park-goers, probably a bit of a shocker. The argument arises that Disney’s audiences are ever-changing. The classic Walt quote inevitably gets thrown at guys like me, “Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow as long as there is imagination left in the world.” Well-said, Uncle Walt. We do not disagree. Remember, he used the words imagination and grow. It seems to me that he’s saying, “Let’s improve and push ourselves to new levels.” Not: “Let’s ruin things that people already love in an attempt to sell more merchandise.” Ok ok. Getting a little bitter, I know.
“But isn’t park attendance always increasing? Aren’t lines at Test Track still an hour long? Does that not tell you something? We need to give the guests what they want.”
People generally like what is placed in front of them-- especially if they don’t know that something far greater was there a few years before. Before we know it, Future World will represent a whole lot of non-futuristic nothingness. Magic Kingdom will be covered in ill-placed, random characters where they should never be. The latest Disney popcorn flicks will continue to encourage management to pull up the bull-dozers to things we’ve cherished since childhood. Disneyland and DCA will look like a Disney Channel version of Six Flags.
Look at the timeline. Is that where we are headed? Let’s pray this ain’t so.
Happy New Year!
[Timeline PDF]
Reader Comments (12)
Depressing. Let's hope this does not continue!
I think the trend will go on forever. I hate to say it but it's true. I think we all have to look at this in a realistic fashion.
Walt Disney was a brilliant man who had the power to overcome the money men and make is ideas real because it was HIS show. From the very second he closed his eyes and passed on, the empire he built started to change. At first, his closest employees tried to keep things in check but by the late 70's it was more than obvious that you can't teach genius. They were on the brink of being sold or closed for good. It only took ten years for things to go down the toilet without Walt. Remember that.
What I'm getting at here is that we just can't expect Walt's vision with the Disney Company these days. We're sort of lucky (or are we?) that we still get to experience a dwindling few true Walt Disney attractions.
Again, you can't teach genius. Horrible people within the company always use the line "we learn about Walt and how he thought". Really? Does that mean you can teach people to think like Albert Einstien? NO! Jerk bags.
This Imagineering Disney post was right on the money. I love it and I love this blog. Many thanks.
-Hoot
Future World needs more gift shops. Maybe Mouse Gear will grow until it consumes all of FW.
Well said, Hoot. It's a shame. At least we have cool home videos and photos to help us re-live things we can no longer experience first hand. And hooray for blogs like Mesa Verde Times, Yesterland, Widen Your World, etc. And we hope that our blog will bring you great things in 2010. Glad you like.
I can agree with everything on the list up top except a Thumbs Down for Pleasure Island. I thought Pleasure Island was just what WDW needed for the adults and the late night crowd. Back in the late 80's, 90's, and early 2000s it was a great place to go to for nighttime fun. The idea of every night being New Years Eve was great and most of the clubs were fun places to dance, relax, and blow off some steam. It changed over the years an eventually in the 2000's became a place that was outdated and cut back. They started cutting corners and removing thing there little by little. Live music became more and more scarce and Pleasure Island was less engaging.
Disney was designed so the entire family could experience Walt’s dream. Pleasure Island was one of the few places the late crowd and adults could get away for a little while from the kids. Even Walt knew the value of adult friendly places back when he designed WDW. Back then the golf courses were the adult getaways.
The ultimate downfall for Pleasure Island was the management cutting back on things and the location. Being between the Marketplace and Downtown Disney West Side was a real problem. I wish they had decided to keep Pleasure Island and just relocate the entertainment. I think Disney is losing some much needed nighttime attractions for guests as well as locals. The best solution to this would be for Disney to create a new resort. The Disney Pleasure Island Resort would be located close to Interstate 4 so locals could easily get to the clubs and bars. It would be an adult only resort that contained a hotel and nighttime entertainment. It could still offer the same kind of dance clubs and every night could be New Years Eve. Guests could go out and party and then walk to there rooms when they are ready to turn in. Guest rooms at the resort could be sound insulated so the clubs, bars, and fireworks do not disturb the guests who have went to bed early in order to go to the park the following morning. An outdoor pool with a swim up bar and pool side spas could attract guest and people during the day.
As far as the other comments above: I agree 100%. I like this site and Disney just does not get it any longer. Every now and again the execs get it right with a ride or an addition, but 90% of the time they just don’t see the potential of WDW and they don’t understand Walt’s dream. My hope is that between 2010 and 2020 someone in those offices finally wakes up, looks past the stacks of dollar bills sitting on the desks and realizes that returning the luster of WDW can be lucrative as well as exciting for the guests. Disney needs to contact some of the die hard Disney fans from around the world and invite them to sit down and discuss just what we all think Walt would have wanted. They can’t seem to figure it out by themselves.
One last rant! If Walt knew Disney operated the number of Diesel buses that they do and what it does to the air, the environment, and the facts on global warming, he would yank them all off the roads and come up with a better solution. Walt and his team didn’t just come up with smart ideas. They made the impossible happen because it was needed and because it was right. So what if it cost a little more to develop a highway in the sky that ran on electricity instead of gas. It needed to be done and they didn’t care that the technology was not there. They created the technology as they went along and never stopped making those ideas even better around ever corner.
I think you are way too bias and ignoring too much. Where's Soarin? Where's Expedition Everest? I see you select Pop Century as "Bad" but I don't see Animal Kingdom Lodge, which is just brilliant. So you simply say "Anything old, GOOD, Anything New, BAD.".Horizons and World of Motion were all well and good - but Epcot was full of those dull "Animatronics teach you stuff" rides. It's nice to have some, but the whole park was like Space Ship Earth..I'll take Soarin', Test Track and Mission: Space over those. Mickey's Philharmagic is the best thing that's EVER BEEN in that location. Mr. Toad may be gone, but Winnie The Pooh is a fair substitute, and reaches a broader appeal. (Amongst the masses, who remembers the Wind and the Willows now-a-days.
Yes, we can mourn things that are gone, I miss the OLD Tiki Room every trip, and so wish that 20,000 leagues were still there. But to say that nothing new is any good is ridiculous. We were watching the "Monster's Inc Laugh Floor" show in December, and I thought to myself "Ya know, I kind of miss old 9-eye, but this is WAY more entertaining than the Timekeeper was. Good move by Disney." Some changes are bound to turn out poor choices (Stich anyone?), but they have to TRY less they stagnate.
In an ideal world, they would never take off any old rides, and only add new things...but in the real world, they have limited infrastructure and resources for this. You have my pity, for someone that can only accept things as they were is doomed to misery.
This is why we post this stuff!
Everest was meant to be on there as a "Thumbs Up", definately.
For simlicity's sake I did not explain all of my opinions. I did this mostly off the top of my head and didn't intend to include everything. A few things were left off because I don't have strong opinions either way. Mickey's PhilharMagic is indeed pretty good. However in my opinion it doesn't hold a candle to one of it's predicessors, The Mickey Mouse Review.
Mission: Space is decent but in my opinion it is lightyears behind it's predicessor, Horizons. I happen to be one who loves animatronic-filled rides that try to teach me things. As for Horizons, the entire concept and vision of the ride outperform the physical elements of the ride, which is saying A LOT considering the amazing amount of detail and the incredible design. We just don't see that combination in Disney rides anymore.
Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor- wrong location. Toy Story Mania isn't on there because I'm on the fence with that one. Just glad it's not at Magic Kingdom or Epcot. Didn't want to include any resorts but Pop and All-Star are just so bad I had to. AK Lodge, Wilderness Lodge, Saratoga Springs, etc.- thumbs up.
Point is, there's been a decline in the past couple decades with a few exceptions.
I agree this list is too selective. However it's pretty close to accurate. You should definitely include the Win of Reflections of Earth - the final good thing Disney has done. Dinosaur is a crapfest compared to Indiana Jones. But I would make Pleasure Island and Disney Quest plusses - while they could have been much better, they were good and at least something new was being tried.
There is hope though, Splash Mountain, the last good ride, was created well after Walt's death. There are still good people out there, but like our government, they aren't generally what floats to the top.
I like pooh's playful place! I think it fills a need. that's all.
It's hard to like Pooh's Playful Spot when you think about what was there before (20K Leagues Under the Sea).
I agree that this articles IS overly-biased and extremely mean-spirited.
I can't stand people slamming new attractions without thinking.
GO GET A LIFE!
Thank you, but I have a great life.
I appreciate the feedback but let's remember that this is OPINION. It's a matter of taste. Forming an opinion without thinking is something I can't stand either. We agree on that. But nothing here was slammed without thinking. Trust me, a lot of thought and experience have gone into the things I critique. This visual is meant to simply demonstrate that in my opinion the things that made Disney parks great from the beginning have been slipping away. That's all.
I feel that too often too little thought goes into LOVING things almost unconditionally if Disney made them. Mindless appreciation might be more blissful for some, but I like to look a little deeper at something before forming a strong opinion. That said, I love to experience things for what they are the first few times around before critiquing too much.